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Destiny vs. Cenk
LIVE: Cenk Uygur and Destiny DEBATE Israel-Palestine Escalation
- Netanyahu government
- blocked P. state
- Worst than Hamas
- Terrorist more than Hamas
- Pretending to get Hamas to just killed P. people
- War not getting hostages back
- Butchers
- Permanent Occupation
- ’We love our oppressors and be dogs and love you’
- End occupation = Peace
- No peace with endless war
- Get Netanyahu out of government
- Abbas to do two-state deal
- Brutalizing P. for 75 years
- Talks about how you need to make peace and negotiation with the radicals since the radicals always rise to most power
- This is an interesting argument and I think clarifies how the radicals are a tough type to fight due to manipulating Western values
- Israel is guilty overall because occupying for 75 years
- Destiny made a great analogy: If P. got their state of Gaza and West Bank, and Oct 7th still happened, would you agree with the war right now how it is?
- Cenk still couldn’t accept it, still framing it as “oppressor vs oppressed”
- Cenk is trying to say IDF is only trying to kill P. people; yet when confronted with the facts of ratios compared to other conflicts, its on par with urban conflict. Then backtracks and agrees (genocide vs holocaust), and yet says its disproportionate.
- So he’s saying that Israel isn’t trying to kill ALL the P. people, but just being a bit sloppy—plausible deniability