Filed with 60.11 Religion · Related: 60.9 Philosophy · Political Philosophy (MOC)

Daniel Haqiqatjou Arguments

Opening

• Attempts to unionize with Christianity against Israel/Jews
  • Israel benefits from Christian vs. Muslim genocide
  • Claims Israel is killing Christians
    
• Secular Liberal Values
  • Individual freedom
  • Gender equality
  • Sexual autonomy
  • Scientific Progress
  • Economic Advancement
• If you judge Islam by Traditional Values, Islam beats Christianity. If you judge by Secular Liberal Values, Christianity comes out on top.
• Christianity since the Enlightenment has been reformed with liberal values
• Christianity is more open to reform that Islam isnt
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• Christian apologists code-switch
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  • If these are biologically-rooted, then why does someone need religion to value marriage, family?
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• Muslims value tradition more than Christians
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  • Religious Freedom in Muslim Countries
  • You find in Muslims countries the people are at severe risk for NOT being religious, therefore suppressing the true views
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  • Divorce Difficulties for Women
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  • Sexual Violence in Muslim Countries
  • Short version: using the best global data (WHO / UN system), Muslim-majority regions show higher rates of physical and/or sexual violence by male partners than Western high-income countries, but the gap is not infinite (think roughly about 1 in 3 women vs about 1 in 4–5 in the West). For non-partner sexual violence (stranger/relative etc.), global differences are smaller and the data from many Muslim-majority states are thin and likely understate the problem.
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  • Preservation of Religious Text
• Carbon dating confirms Quran traces to Muhammad
  • Bible evolved by layers of editing, reflects teachings of Paul more than Jesus
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• Mixing Traditional and Secular values doesn’t mix. Traditional gets abandoned.
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• Moral Progress Example: Liberating women by telling them they don’t have a moral duty to serve their husbands
• Scientific Progress Example: Inventing AI companies for the elderly so you don’t have to talk to grandpa
• Progress can seriously damage society.
• Religion, Family and Nation are weak in U.S. even though it has high GDP
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Additional

• IQ higher due to the Flynn effect
• IQ related to inter-sex breeding, races have different IQs
• Atheist IQ higher than Christians
• IQ not the end all be all
• Tradition Values > IQ
• Higher IQ -> Secularism
• Transhumanism going to destroy the human race
• AI, Uploading conscious to the cloud, Taylor made babies

Andrew Wilson Arguments

Opening: Inbred Populations

• 1400 years
• 8th - 15th Centuries
• First cousin marriage
• Muslims double cousin marriages or higher i.e. India, Lebanon
• Pakistan: 65% cousin marriages
• Saudi Arabia: 50-58% IQ: 76
• UAE: 54% IQ: 82
• Iran: 40% IQ: 80
• Research: How Christianity stopped cousin marriages
• Sub-Sahara Africa: All Muslim, 60% First Cousin marriages in Somalia
• Rat people of Pakistan
• Harmful genes compound
• Sub-90 IQ Nations have problems modernizing
• Islam must bank of the benevolence of global Christianity to not exterminate them since Christian nations are so much more advanced

Additional

• So having a low IQ means I’m going to have better ethics?