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Peaceful?

  • Martydom + Paradise = Death cult
  • ““Whoever kills an innocent person it is as if he has killed all of humanity.” — [Quran 5:32
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  • https://youtube.com/shorts/FIRj6BN2XDo?si=bN1hxhdrz-hhPSTH
  • ISLAM IS THE FUTURE - Destiny vs Sulaiman Ahmed Debate Review David Wood Apostate Prophet LIVE > ^2fa141
  • The Most Violent and Awkward Quran Verse
    • Many modern part-time Muslim apologists spread a now well-known Quran verse, which says that killing one innocent person was like killing all mankind; but are they right?
    • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfqduwXVSgQ
  • Surah Al-Ma’idah - 32 - Quran.com
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  • Wants to Conquer World
    • These are the jihadist Islamic fighting tactics, against the rest of humanity. The jihadist who kills in the name of Allah is only the tip of the iceberg. Islam commands the believers to fight heresy and infidels in different and varied ways to fulfill the commandment of Allah from the Quran and Muhammad, to cleanse the earth of heresy and infidels until it contains only the Islamic faith.
      • Continue to let Islam into the Western world with welcome and friendship. Continue to respect Islam and eventually it will do to you what Muhammad did in the 7th century to those who welcomed him in the city of Medina. He destroyed the host culture.
      • Quran 8.39 “And fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief and polytheism, i.e. worshipping others besides Allâh) and the religion (worship) will all be for Allâh Alone [in the whole of the world]. But if they cease (worshipping others besides Allâh), then certainly, Allâh is All-Seer of what they do.”
    • 39 ways to serve and participate in Jihad.pdf (file not included in this release)
  • The Book of Jihad
    • Thread by @Ofer_binshtok on Thread Reader App – Thread Reader App.pdf (file not included in this release)
  • Open: A-Commentary-on-Zad-al-Mustaqni-Sh.-Salih-al-Fawzan-Vol.-1-2-compressed.pdf (file not included in this release)
  • Defeating Christianity
    • In generations to come, Islam will destroy Christianity in Western Europe. Just as he destroyed Christianity and Judaism in the Middle East in about 1,400 years since it was founded. This is one of the tactics that Islam uses to take over the world: Quran 4.100 “Whoever emigrates for the sake of Allah will find much refuge and abundance in the earth, and whoever forsakes his home, a refugee for Allah and his messenger, and death overtakes him, his reward is then obligatory upon Allah. Allah is always forgiving, merciful.” *Here the Qur’an states the cardinal importance of “emigration for the cause of Allah,” that is, moving to a new land with the intention of bringing Islam to it. See also 4:66 and 4:89. The primary pattern for emigrants in Islamic tradition is the Hijra, Muhammad’s move from Mecca to Medina, where for the first time he became a political and military leader. It is “obligatory” for Allah to reward emigrants; this is one of the Qur’an’s few promises of reward for specific actions (see also 9:111). Continue to let Islam into the Western world with welcome and friendship. Continue to respect Islam and eventually it will do to you what Muhammad did in the 7th century to those who welcomed him in the city of Medina. He completely destroyed the host culture. x.com
  • Ten Reasons Islam Is Not a Religion of Peace

Wars

Islam Caliphates, Conquering, Colonizing
Islam Invasion of India
GENOCIDE OF ZARATUSHTIS by Islam in Iran (file not included in this release)

WRONG: “Muslim World didn’t hate America until Israel”

1788 U.S. taken as slaves by Barbary States

  • Ottoman Empire and North Africa
  • Ships stopped and crews carried off into slavery
  • Estimate: 1 to 1.5 million European and American slaves taken between 1750 and 1850
  • Thomas Jefferson went and asked, “Why do you do this to us? We have never had a quarrel with Muslim world of any kind. We weren’t in the Crusades, we weren’t in the war in Spain. Why do you do this to our people and ships? Why do you plunder and enslave our people?”
    • Ambassador Abdul Rakman responded to Jefferson: “The Quran gives us permission to do so. Because you are infidels. And thats our answer.”
    • Jefferson said in that case I’ll send a Navy and crush your state. Which Jefferson did.
  • Islamic fundamentalism is not created by American democracy. It’s a lie to say so, its a masochistic lie and excuses those who are the real criminals and it blames us for the attacks made upon us.

Fact-checking

Barbary Slavery & the Early United States — What the Sources Actually Show

Point from the promptWhat the record showsSources
“1788: U.S. sailors taken as slaves”The first U.S. captures occurred 25 July 1785 (schooner Maria of Boston) and 1 Aug 1785 (Dauphin of Philadelphia) by Algerine corsairs. Enslaved crews were held more than a decade.(en.wikipedia.org)
Ottoman North-African “Barbary States”The corsair ports of Algiers, Tunis, and Tripoli were nominally Ottoman but functioned as semi-autonomous emirates, plus Moroccan Salé. Their rulers financed government through sea-raiding and tribute from Christian powers.(en.wikipedia.org)
“1–1.5 million European & American slaves (1750-1850)”The only systematic estimate is by historian Robert C. Davis: ≈ 1.0–1.25 million Europeans captured between 1530 and 1780. Davis extrapolates from shipping records; many scholars argue the figure is an upper-bound and becomes less plausible for the 1750-1850 era, when captures were far lower thanks to stronger European navies. Americans made up only a few hundred of these captives.Davis, Christian Slaves, Muslim Masters (2003); see critiques summarized in Panzac, The Barbary Corsairs (2005).
Jefferson’s question & the envoy’s Koran answerIn March 1786 Jefferson and Adams met Tripoli’s envoy Sidi Haji Abd al-Rahman in London. Asked why Tripoli made war on nations “who had done them no injury,” he replied (Adams relayed the words to Secretary of State John Jay):
“It was written in their Koran, that all nations which had not acknowledged the Prophet were sinners, whom it was the right and duty of the faithful to plunder and enslave; and that every Mussulman who was slain in this warfare was sure to go to Paradise.”		(en.wikipedia.org, abbevilleinstitute.org)
“Jefferson immediately sent a navy and crushed them.”Jefferson became President 15 years later. Once in office he refused further tribute and dispatched squadrons, beginning the First Barbary War (1801-1805). The outcome was a treaty ending Tripoli’s tribute demands but did not end Barbary corsairing (that required the Second Barbary War in 1815 and the French conquest of Algiers in 1830).(en.wikipedia.org)
“Islamic fundamentalism is not created by American democracy …”Corsairing long pre-dated the United States and was driven by a mix of religion, commerce, and geopolitics. Religion provided ideological cover (as the 1786 quote shows), but taxation grievances, local politics and economic incentives were decisive. Blaming U.S. democracy for 18th-century piracy is anachronistic; equally, framing the raids as purely theological ignores this profit-and-power dimension.Braudel, The Mediterranean (1949); Panzac, Barbary Corsairs (2005).

Additional Context You Might Want to Include

  • Tribute system: From 1796 to 1800 Congress appropriated > $1 million (≈ 20 % of federal outlays) in cash, ships, and stores to ransom sailors and buy peace.
  • Treaty of Tripoli (1797): Ratified under President John Adams, it begins “the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion,” a clause intended to reassure Muslim rulers and secure lower tribute.
  • European response: Britain, France, and the Netherlands bombarded Algiers several times in the 17th–19th centuries; a massive Anglo-Dutch strike in 1816 freed ~3,000 captives.
  • Scale of American captivity: About 700 U.S. sailors were held between 1785 and 1815—tiny compared with European numbers but politically galvanising for the young republic.
  • End of Barbary piracy: Declined rapidly after 1816 and ended de facto when France seized Algiers in 1830.

Bottom Line

Jefferson did hear a bluntly religious justification for piracy, but the confrontation with the Barbary states arose from a centuries-old corsair economy, not from any U.S. policy or “crusade.” The United States ultimately rejected tribute and used naval force, yet it took decades and coordinated European pressure to eliminate Mediterranean slave-raiding altogether.

Christopher Hitchens on America’s First Encounter with Islamic Fundamentalism - YouTube

More proof how fuckin ignorant Islamic apologists like Nick Fuentes and the woke right retards actually are. .@OwenShroyer1776 tried tossing out the same bullshit revisionist history in our debate and I shut him ….mp4 (file not included in this release)

On Jews

  • First were the Chosen People, then they were pigs and outlaws of the world

Guilt of Western Societies

  • Western societies are suffering from something similar to White Guilt in that they have wounds from National Socialism and Slavery and Segregation and these wounds allow for multiculturalism and allow Islamists to infect those wounds and infiltrate their societies without pushback.

Islam: The Politically Incorrect Truth

Sam Harris > ^5dda6d

Radical

  • Peaceful?

  • Key Points:

    • Islam is NOT a peaceful religion hijacked by extremists
    • The Quran is the perfect word, the only book you need, and is the end of all human knowledge in the 7th Century.
    • If you practice Islam truthfully and the word, you end with ISIS.
    • Mainstream Islam itself represents an extremist rejection of intellectual honesty, gender equality, secular politics and genuine pluralism.
    • Claims to be the last and final religion
    • Islam is the solution for everything; all your life and the one to come

  • has been spread by the sword for 1000 years.

  • Expects you to conquer the world

  • Disavows 1400 years of wisdom and insight

    • Thinks that in peak of knowledge was in the 7th century
    • Everything to know is known in the Quran

  • Thinks killing innocent Muslims, either directly or indirectly is doing them a favor as they’ll be in Paradise with God.

  • Doctrine of victimization and its cousin grievance caused a millennium of stagnation prior to the Renaissance

  • Claims to be the last revelation from God to man.

  • Many Muslims realized that even though they have the final revelation—why do they have it so bad compared to the West?

  • Would the history of Christianity been more or less bloody if Jesus was more like Muhammad?

    • Story of Jesus saving a woman getting stoned for adultery. Muhammad stoned her to death.

  • Islam is about subjugation to Allah

  • Christianity we get the idea of rights

    • “All mankind is created equal” in the eyes of God
    • Recognitions of the well-spring — Roots of civilizational Christianity

  • Muslims see this tiny bit of land of Israel, one of the only countries without oil—and see a glowing success compared to the other countries around

  • Muhammad

    • Monotheist
    • Mecca → Medina
    • Similar to Jewish beliefs
    • Jews resisted his teachings—when he thought they’d welcome him
    • Massacred Jews—beheaded—Women, children enslaved
    • 628AD: Muhammad + 700 followers attack Khaibar
      • Largest Jewish community in the Arabian Pensinsula
      • Burned down date Palm Groves — livelihood
      • Taxed Jews — Humiliation
    • Conquered the land of Israel and on
    • By middle of 8th century — 90% of Jews were under Muslim rule

  • Sunni-Shia Divide

    • Shia
      • 15%
      • Iran
      • Divine Bloodline
    • Sunni
      • 85%
      • Saudi Arabia
      • Qualified

  • Consideration Points to Contemplate

    • People from all religions or even believing in a dogmatic way, for instance Marxism, can take a normal person and turn them into a monster yet they think their being God-like. The issue is, Islam, the Quran itself, is a book that at the most fundamental, basic level incredibly violent and backward.

When they asked Richard Dawkins if he was an islamophobia, he said, “I have every right to be phobic of beheadings.”

https://web.archive.org/web/20120225111705/http://www.islaminindia.org:80/category/13-evidence-that-islam-is-false

Progressive Islam – A Rose by Any Name American Soft Power in the War for the Hearts and Minds of Muslims

Narrating Arab American History- The Peddling Thesis

Revelation or Revolution_ A Gramscian Approach to the Rise of Political Islam

Islamism and Social Movement Theory

Sayyid Qutb’s Doctrine of Jahiliyya

  • Islam can’t have a reformation
    • Going back to the source material = ISIS
  • Islam colonized Indonesia, Pakistan, Bangladesh

Sex

Exposing Some More of the Moral Problems of Islam: The Quran’s Confused Stance on Sexual Ethics

Random Points:

  • “Fastest growing religion”
    • Islam is growing due to birth rates NOT conversion.
    • Birth rates are due to how they treat women as baby factories
  • Islam is NOT a peaceful religion hijacked by extremists
  • The Quran is the perfect word, the only book you need, and is the end of all human knowledge in the 7th Century.
  • If you practice Islam truthfully and the word, you end with ISIS.
  • Mainstream Islam itself represents an extremist rejection of intellectual honesty, gender equality, secular politics and genuine pluralism.
  • Claims to be the last and final religion
  • Islam is the solution for everything; all your life and the one to come
  • has been spread by the sword for 1000 years.
  • Expects you to conquer the world
  • Disavows 1400 years of wisdom and insight
    • Thinks that in peak of knowledge was in the 7th century
    • Everything to know is known in the Quran
  • Thinks killing innocent Muslims, either directly or indirectly is doing them a favor as they’ll be in Paradise with God.
  • Doctrine of victimization and its cousin grievance caused a millennium of stagnation prior to the Renaissance
  • Claims to be the last revelation from God to man.
  • Many Muslims realized that even though they have the final revelation—why do they have it so bad compared to the West?
  • Would the history of Christianity been more or less bloody if Jesus was more like Muhammad?
    • Story of Jesus saving a woman getting stoned for adultery. Muhammad stoned her to death.
  • Islam is about subjugation to Allah
  • Christianity we get the idea of rights
    • “All mankind is created equal” in the eyes of God
    • Recognitions of the well-spring — Roots of civilizational Christianity
  • Muslims see this tiny bit of land of Israel, one of the only countries without oil—and see a glowing success compared to the other countries around
  • Islam can’t have a reformation
  • Going back to the source material = ISIS
  • Islam colonized Indonesia, Pakistan, Bangladesh

References

WikiIslam
Answering Islam, A Christian-Muslim Dialog and Apologetic
Answering Muslims
Islam: The Politically Incorrect Truth
https://web.archive.org/web/20120225111705/http://www.islaminindia.org:80/category/13-evidence-that-islam-is-false
Jihad Watch
Progressive Islam – A Rose by Any Name American Soft Power in the War for the Hearts and Minds of Muslims

Narrating Arab American History- The Peddling Thesis

Revelation or Revolution_ A Gramscian Approach to the Rise of Political Islam

Islamism and Social Movement Theory

Sayyid Qutb’s Doctrine of Jahiliyya

https://x.com/Ofer_binshtok/status/1723609595153637587

https://www.islamwow.com

Christopher Hitchens on Islam # shorts - YouTube

Persecution of Christians

Raymond Ibrahim (Reports)
Open Doors US  · Serving Persecuted Christians Worldwide