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60.1 Israel-Palestine TP

Script

START WITH Ernest Bevin Quote

  • “His Majesty’s Government have thus been faced with an irreconcilable conflict of principles … For the Jews the essential point of principle is the creation of a sovereign Jewish State. For the Arabs, the essential point of principle is to resist to the last the establishment of Jewish sovereignty in any part of Palestine” Quote by British Foreign Minister Ernest Bevin in February 1947 in a speech to the British Parliament explaining why Britain can no longer carry out the mandate with which it was entrusted by the League of Nations and thus sending it back to the United Nation. Note the date - February 1947: there is no Israel, no refugees, no occupation, no settlements, no blockade - none of the ‘understandable causes’ for Palestinian violence that even the UN Secretary General has fallen for. And yet, already in February 1947 it is crystal clear why the conflict is already “irreconcilable”: as a matter of top priority, “the essential point of principle”, the Jews want a state whereas as a matter of top priority the Arabs of the land (later known as Palestinians) seek “to resist to the last the establishment of Jewish sovereignty in any part of Palestine”. That’s the conflict. The Jews want a state in even a part of the land. The Palestinians want the Jews not to have a state in any part of the land. That’s “Free Palestine”. That’s “From the River to the Sea”. It’s an idea that guarantees that generation after generation trained murderers will rise under different names: Fatah, DFLP, Hamas, Jihad, to “Liberate Palestine”. If we are ever to have peace, this idea must change. Palestinians must develop a constructive vision of living next to a Jewish state rather than the century long destructive vision of living instead of it. Nothing less will do.

Oct 7th Reaction (Explores P. Values and Islamist beliefs)

    1. Thomas Sowell talks how to find truth and a simple question is to ask, “Compared to what?”
      • Tearing down missing posters of 1 year old hostage Douglas Murray Speech
      • Believe all women unless their Jewish women
      • Queers for Palestine, like Turkey’s for Thanksgiving
      • Happy to kill Jews
          1. Story about how in 1948 when the massacre of Deir Yassin happened, it was Jews from a neighboring Jewish villages that stopped it. (Ref: 1900-1948 > ^853f98)
        • Oct 7th Hamas Invaders were proud of what they did. They were high on evil.
          • One calling his parents in Gaza, “Father father I’ve killed 10 Jews with my hands, get mother on the phone”
          • Two boys with father killed in front of them, one lost an ear and one an eye, terrorist comes in and takes food from their fridge. One of the boys says to one of the terrorists, “That is my mothers food.” The terrorist says, “Where is your mother. I want her too!”
        • P. dancing in the streets after 9/11
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Israel

  • Zionism
  • Zionism fundamentally is a understanding that Jews must have a place to call their own or they’d be continuously killed. And this became reality in World War 2. In 1921, U.S. Congress closed their borders with the Emergency Quota Act. And up until World War 2, every other country did as well to the Jews. The Ashkenazi Jews that are in Israel, are the last of the Jews in the Eastern hemisphere. Should 7 million more Jews been killed? Say it out loud. Or is the argument there should of been other places for Jews to go? If that’s Anti-Zionist, then call me Anti-Zionist. When America’s doors were open 95% of Jews fleeing Eastern Europe, fleeing 1300 pogroms, a quarter million dead, decade after decade increasingly anti-semitic laws pushing Jews out they decided to go to America. 3% choose other places, only 2% became Zionist. It was when the doors shut that those Jews HAD to go to Israel.
    - References
    - Haviv Rettig Gur on the Gaza War, American Jews, Islam, Hopes for Peace, more (with Coleman Hughes). - YouTube (49mins)
    - Colonizers
    - Israelis The Jews Who Lived Through History - Haviv Rettig Gur
    • While much of Europe and the West—from the left, from the right, from the religious to the atheists—are indulging in this ancient hatred, Israel is showing another way. It’s showing how Arab, Jew, Druze, Muslim, Christians, and others can live together and fight together.
    • Western Values
    • Anti-colonialism
  • If you are against Israel, you are against the Jewish people. Pakistan was created as a state around the same time as Israel. I reckon if people said Pakistan should be abolished, they don’t have the right to a state even thought they had one setup for them decades ago we should abolish it. I think people would say, “That’s not right.” And if people then said, “Ohh I have no problem with the Pakistani people even thought I want to abolish their state” … of course you do.”

Reason why Israel has bad PR

One of the central arguments made by the first “strategic” Zionists—figures like Leon Pinsker and Theodor Herzl, who awoke to Zionism when Europe suddenly turned on its Jews—was that a Jew cannot stand before an antisemite and “explain” himself. To these thinkers, the antisemite does not see a fellow human being; he sees a one-dimensional character in his own private morality play. The Jew who tries to correct that caricature inevitably finds the effort futile: the fog of the antisemite’s narrative is impenetrable. What begins as explanation becomes justification, and self-justification is, in their view, intrinsically dehumanizing. Therefore, said Pinsker and Herzl, a Jew with basic human dignity must refuse to justify himself.

From this insight grew a foundational Zionist ethos: do not explain, do not apologize. In the 1950s David Ben-Gurion embodied it; when the United Nations condemned Israel, he retorted with the dismissive Yiddishism “Um­muen?”—“So what?” That mindset has persisted. On 15 October 2023, just a week after the Hamas onslaught of 7 October, Israel’s newly re-created Ministry of Public Diplomacy—a portfolio formed and dissolved five times since independence—was still little more than a political bargaining chip. Its minister, a Likud back-bencher, went on national television, declared the office a “fake ministry” devised for coalition horse-trading, and resigned on the spot rather than squander public funds during wartime. In effect, Israel shut down its PR arm because the war had begun.

The result is a chronic vacuum. Nearly two years into this conflict, Prime Minister Netanyahu has yet to appoint a credible spokesperson whom journalists can reliably approach. Into that void flow unchecked falsehoods—such as a recent BBC interview in which a UN relief official claimed, absurdly, that 14,000 babies would die within forty-eight hours. Even hostile observers should have recognized the figure as impossible, yet without an authoritative Israeli voice to counter it, the allegation lingered.

Information warfare is central to Hamas and its allies. For Israel, however, the ingrained refusal to “stand before the world and justify ourselves”—admirable in principle—has become a strategic liability. Israelis can sometimes be jolted into taking public diplomacy seriously if reminded that diaspora Jews must live alongside the audiences swayed by hostile narratives. Still, in the absence of sustained, competent engagement, the loudest Israeli voices abroad often belong to fringe politicians rather than the broad mainstream of the country’s Jewish majority.

Blood Libels

  1. Colonialism
    1. Israel is an de-colonization success story. After Arab imperialism, Islamic conquest and British colonialism, the Jews indigenous to Judea reestablished Israel.
    2. Arafat born in Cairo and created Palestinian national identity in the 1960s.
  2. Ethnic Cleansing
    1. 5 Arab armies invaded
    2. Arab that remained in Israel became citizens
      1. Arab population in Israel has increased 10 fold. This is ethnic cleansing?
    3. Ethnic Cleaning is what happened to the Jews:
      1. Jordan occupation of West Bank in 1948
      2. 850,000 Jews expelled from Yemen, Algeria, Egypt, Morocco, Syria, Lebanon, and Iraq where they have lived for thousands of years.
      3. Arab countries left Jew free
  3. Apartheid
    1. Arabs 20% of Israel pop.
    2. The only free Arabs in the Middle East
    3. Arab represented in every area of Israel society as Mayors, Army Officers, Police Commanders, members of Parliament, Supreme Court.
    4. Salim Joubran, Arab Supreme Court judge, who put both an Israeli prime minister and a President in jail.
    5. Mahmud Abbas is now in his 19th year of his 4 year term
  4. Genocide
    1. The very crimes committed against them
    2. Inverts reality
    3. Hamas spent 16 years embedding its terror infrastructure in mosques, schools, hospitals and every second house.
    4. Hamas central strategy is using human shields

How to End it all:

Palestinian Cognitive Dissonance

During the sermon, the imam pointed to the Dome of the Rock on the Temple Mount, which in Sunni tradition marks the boulder from which Muhammad began his ascent to heaven. He insisted this symbolism is no accident: Palestine itself, he argued, is the stepping-stone that Islam must tread on to reclaim its redemptive role in history. While much of the wider Muslim world depicts the Palestinians as a weak link—pushed back, uniquely, by a comparatively fragile adversary—this preacher recast them as the point where Islam’s decline ends. Palestinians, he declared, are the necessary sacrifice whose endurance will restore Islam to its rightful stature.

That narrative explains why polls in Gaza often show respondents simultaneously denouncing Hamas for ruining their lives and praising it for the “glorious” attack of October 7. What appears to be cognitive dissonance is, in fact, an embrace of the only dignifying story on offer: Hamas may have inflicted suffering, but it also supplies a grand purpose for that suffering. When Israelis make Palestinians feel vulnerable, the implicit question becomes whether the heroic narrative is true or whether their experience is genuinely degraded and undignified. The resulting conversation is far richer than a clash of simple dogmas; it is a struggle over collective meaning and identity.

Maybe

  • Anti-Semitism is famously a shape-shifting virus.
    - It’s their challenge to be hated for being poor and for being rich, for being integrated and for not integrating, for being stateless—remember “rootless cosmopolitans”—and also to be hated for having a state.
    - Sometimes in the past, people hated Jews for their religion. Then you couldn’t hate people for their religion, so people hated the Jews for their race. Then when you weren’t allowed to hate people for their race anymore, you could hate the Jews for having and defending a state. This is the eternal challenge for the Jewish people. Gregor von Rezzori, among others, showed us this. It’s their challenge to be hated for being poor and for being rich, for being integrated and for not integrating, for being stateless—remember “rootless cosmopolitans”—and also to be hated for having a state. But this is not only a challenge for the Jews. It’s a challenge for all of us. As Vasily Grossman wrote in the dead center of his masterpiece “Life and Fate,” and I quote, “Anti-Semitism is always a means rather than an end. It is a measure of the contradictions yet to be resolved. It is a mirror for the failings of individuals, social structures, and state systems. Tell me what you accuse the Jews of, and I’ll tell you what you’re guilty of.”

Offense

Polls

  • Death penalty for people who leave the Muslim religion - 62%
  • Stoning for people who commit adultery - 81%
  • Violence against civilian targets justified in order to defend Islam from its enemies - Only 34% ‘Never Justified’
  • Best means for achieving Palestinian goals is armed struggle - 68%
  • From River to the Sea - 75%
  • Prefers Hamas return after War - 59%
  • There’s been three major polls since Oct 7th in Gaza, and 72-78% support what happened on Oct 7th.

Palestinians

Fundamental Values & Thoughts

Pinker source audit — institutions, ideology, and values are separate claims

Pinker argues that many Muslim-majority states lagged the democratic and Humanitarian Revolutions and that Hamas belongs to a radical Islamist fringe shaped partly by honor, sacred values, and humiliation narratives. But Figure 6-12 does not show rising Islamic conflict: the count stayed roughly level from 1990–2006 while other intrastate conflict declined. Nor does his polling show wholesale Muslim rejection of Western values. It records strong support for speech, elections, and women’s rights, alongside support for Sharia and distrust of U.S. policy—and it documents falling support for jihadist violence. Use this against explanations that erase Hamas’s ideology, not as a claim about every Palestinian or Muslim. → argument card · full Chapter 6 source audit

  • Philippe Nemo's Five Features of Western Civilization
  • Culture
    • Practical argument that Israel protects the holy sites, protects 2 million Arabs, and have built a robust and successful society. Instead of a culture that conquered and brutalized Christian and Jewish societies for 1400 years. (link)
  • Democracy
    • The main reason you can criticism Israel is because their a democracy and they have open records. Where is the Hamas equivalent to B’tselem and Haaretz
    • https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1786883713143337320
      • Society that self-corrects and improves
      • Example: Human Shields used by the IDF to open front doors, struck down by Supreme Court
      • Example: B’tselem , Haaretz — Their own people being able to criticize the government
    • Maps > ^1ee689
    • System of government and other factors determines if a country is successful or not
      • North Korea vs South Korea
      • West Berlin vs East Berlin
    • “The two movements emerged in completely different political environments and among radically dissimilar societies. Zionism emerged amid a social and intellectual climate of both burgeoning nationalisms and, in some ways, a countervailing ethos characterized by the rise of liberalism, democracy, socialism, and modernization. The Arab nationalist movements that arose on either side of World War I, including the distinct Palestinian Arab national movement, were born in largely agrarian societies dominated by Islam, with its exclusionist attitude to all religious “others” and resistance to change, by the narrow rule of political despotism, and by the tribal mores of autocratic clans and families.” Attachment (file not included in this release)
  • Enlightenment
  • Science
  • Rights
    • Rights to critique religion
  • 60.11.1 Islam
  • War is sometimes necessary.
    • Civilians will die.
    • The sight of it is terrible, but not reason for pacifism. Pacifism only works against morally sane adversaries.
    • Haviv Rettig Gur on why Israel has to fight
      • From Haviv Rettig Gur on Breaking Points interview
      • “Can you fight forever? The UAE wants to not fight—that’s wonderful. By the way, we’ve never fought with the UAE. There’s never been a war. The Saudis? Wonderful. I’m a big fan of peace and normalization with everybody. But that they want it and therefore it’s possible… Iran wants us destroyed. We are the Jews who came out of a history of the 20th century in which the moment we stopped dying was when we could fight for ourselves.
        • To the Israeli experience, everybody’s living grandparents come from Iraq and Tunisia and Poland and Germany and Yemen. We are the Jews for whom the privilege of fighting for ourselves, of being able to fight for ourselves, is what redemption feels like.
        • It’s a great question from a Western perspective—can’t we end the war? That’s not an option open to us. No Jew can live in Iraq, no Jew can live in Yemen. We are surrounded by societies with an ideological commitment to our destruction. I wish we weren’t, but if they say it out loud, if it affects their policy…we have to. We are willing to fight because we don’t have another option. If the other side gives us another option, I promise you this incompetent government being what it is…will take that other option.”
        • “We’re not American Jews. We are not people who have discovered over the last 120 years the promise of liberalism coming true. We’re the other half of the Jews. We’re the actual survivors of the Holocaust. We’re the actual survivors of 1,300 pogroms. We are the millions. We are the quarter-million Jews stuck in DP camps three years after liberation… In 1948, they only start emptying out [the camps]… and those DP [displaced persons] are a quarter of the IDF in the 1948 War. We’re the Jews who had nowhere else to go in the world, and we are the Jews for whom the experience of living on our sword… the moment we stopped dying was when we could fight for ourselves.”
  • Oppression Olympics
  • Western Values Weaponized
  • What is that we are right to want and to defend without apology in the West?
    • Rational conversation
    • Individual freedom
    • Rule of law
    • Consent of the governed
    • Peaceful transfer of power
    • Strong civil society
    • Tolerance of difference
      • Where it doesn’t put all other good things in peril
    • What do they give us?
      • Open societies
      • Scientific progress
      • Creative intelligence
      • Increasing Wealth
      • Social mobility
      • Personal security
      • Public justice
      • Healthy environment
      • Institutional transparency
      • Generous social safety net
  • Time to admit some people, some groups and whole cultures don’t want these Western values
  • One State Solution
    • There has never been an Arab democracy
    • When people say an Arab majority country with a Jewish minority country, you are asking people to believe:
      • The first ever Arab Democracy
      • The first ever Muslim and Arab country that will treat the Jews as equals
      • You will asking the Jewish people to forgo their one state, their hard fault state they sacrificed for, for the never have before existing unicorn.

Moral Argument

  • Why do people claim Hamas didn’t mean to kill the concern goers, babies or did rapes?
    • It’s a weird way to make it a little less bad even if it isn’t true
    • Hamas statements on wanting to kill all Jews
  • Myth #5: The two sides in this conflict are equally civilized, equally entitled to respect, and equally worth protecting.
  • Idea that if one side has more deaths, that side is morally right
  • There is no moral parity
    • Idea that Israel is powerful and a bully with advanced and Palestinians are victims throwing rocks
    • Even after Oct 7th
      • Genocidal organization like Hamas
      • Butchering non-combatants and taking women and children as hostages
      • Firing rockets indiscriminately by the thousands purposely into civilian areas
      • STILL have Western and majority of youth believing that Israel is in the wrong and has no right to defend itself or even exist
  • Moral confusion by many supporting Hamas
    • Natural in a sense as people assume that people everywhere more or less are the same and basically want the same things in life
      • That normal people wouldn’t resort to violence
        • Wouldn’t burn families alive and rape women, cutting their breasts off and killing them and then shrieking with joy
        • Unless they been subjected to some unimaginable misery and injustice
        • ‘They must of been driven insane by their own trauma’
      • The very extremity of the violence on Oct 7th seems to put the moral onus on its victims somehow
  • If all you care about are the Palestinians, you’d want them to be free from this lunatic ideology.
  • Scene of hostages and the Palestinians celebrating their capture
    • Women soaked in their own blood and clearly raped
    • Woman’s both Achilles tendon’s cut so she can’t run away
    • Woman holding her children
    • Imagine if Seal Team Six had captured some random Saudi women and children after 9/11 and paraded them as hostages through Times Square. Can you imagine dancing for joy and spitting in the faces of these terrified women and children? Imagine our soldiers dragging the mutilated bodies along sidewalks and coming out of your office and shrieking with joy at the sight? Can you imagine the Israeli’s doing it on the street of Tel Aviv? No you can’t
  • Cultures matter. Beliefs matter.
  • Islamic Extremism

    • People assume groups like Hamas or Al-Qaeda attacked Western targets for normal political reasons
      • Anti-colonial or nationalistic
      • Extremity of their violence a fault of Western powers
    • Islamic extremists understand that most of us are drunk on and self-doubt
      • Perpetual firing squad of sanctimony
      • If they just use the word racism—settles all arguments left of center
      • Constantly worried about being the bad guys
      • Aided by useful idiots
    • Inability for many to believe that it’s sincere religious belief and identity driving conflicts in the Middle East
    • Fundamental lack of understanding how Islam differs from other religions
    • Islam: The Politically Incorrect Truth
    • There are over 50 majority Muslim countries
      • None are good places to live if you’re worried about basic human freedom
      • Not an accident
      • Explicit denial of woman’s rights
    • Clash of Civilization: Traditional Islam & Western Values
    • It is not about land; It’s an existential affront that a Jewish state exists in the Middle East
      • Gad Saad on the topic
      • Goal of Islam; 1400 years that it doesn’t tolerate others
      • “You need to rid Arabia of Christians but certainly the Jews” -Mohammad
      • House of Islam & House of War (Yet to be Islamic control)
      • You can’t have peace if the other side doesn’t want you to exist at all
  • History

  • Supporters

  • Emotional Stories

    • Oct 7th
      • Hamas video of killing father, his child cover in his blood and says “Why am I alive?”
    • 1948
      • How Jews still in their concentration camp clothes fighting for their lives again
  • Just War: Sovereign country gets invaded by terrorist group
  • Why is Hamas justified in their rule?
  • Israeli Arabs are the richest Arabs in the region
    • None want to live in Palestine (polling data)

Defense

  • Strong parallels with newly communist China in the 1950s colonizing Tibet and creating an apartheid.

Protesters

Oct 7th War

Genocide

Defund Israel (BDS)

Quotes

Colonizers

Occupation

Apartheid

Mouth Pieces

Historians

Argument & Media Strategies

  • People tend to argue a minority of points that is not the norm and say its the norm.
    • Example: “Look how Israel shut down this report or report this one time, so therefore it doesn’t have freedom of the press.”
    • This is used to defense against the Arab countries lack of freedom of press, like its similar
  • Circular sourcing: “multiple human rights groups confirmed it” can mean two linked NGOs recycling the same testimony, which outlets and UN documents then cite as corroboration. Ask who first took the testimony and whether anyone verified it.

History

  • 1948
    • Not rare people have to move because of war or getting exiled
      • WWII
        • 12 million ethic Germans got kicked out of Russia, Poland, Czech
        • 1 Million Greeks out of Turkey 1923
        • 1 Million Ghanaians out of Nigeria in 1983
        • 1 Million French out of Algeria in 1962
        • 1 Million Syrian refugees moved to Germany 8 years ago

International Law

  • Moynihan’s Law
    - > [!note] “The amount of violations of human rights in a country is always an inverse function of the amount of complaints about human rights violations heard from there. The greater the number of complaints being aired, the better protected are human rights in that country.”
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United States Funding Israel

Aid, groceries, and domestic priorities

“You can oppose an arms transfer without pretending it explains the price of eggs. Regular aid is $3.8 billion a year, roughly 0.06% of the FY2024 federal-spending benchmark. Wartime supplements must be counted separately. Show both the economic mechanism and the budget for the domestic program you say ending the aid would finance.” New debate wording, not a Frum quotation. → full card and cross-examination · source and calculation audit.

  • Numbers to use: $3.8 billion regular framework; CRS’s $12.5 billion FY2024 bilateral military/missile-defense subtotal; approximately 0.056% and 0.185%, respectively, against $6.752 trillion FY2024 outlays. These are scale ratios, not a ceiling on total wartime spending. → United States Supporting Israel > Aid, domestic spending, and the grocery-price argument.

  • Fast reply: “Opportunity cost does not establish grocery-price causation. A small budget share also does not settle whether a transfer is right.”

  • Concede the good objection: defense subsidies can free Israeli resources for civilian uses; U.S. procurement still costs money. Answer fungibility without claiming that U.S. military appropriations directly fund Israeli health care.

  • Three memory aids: about 30 hours of grocery spending using Frum’s input; about 20 years of regular aid for NYCHA’s projected 20-year capital needs; about 70 years of regular aid for one average month of an assumed $32 trillion ten-year federal health-care expansion. Keep the definitions and assumptions attached.

  • Rhetoric: Frum interprets the ad as economic scapegoating. Challenge collective blame or conspiratorial insinuation specifically; a mistaken fiscal claim alone does not prove antisemitism. → Jewish Conspiracy Theories > Economic scapegoating and the grocery-price claim.

  • What Does America Get for $3.8 Billion in Israel? And the Way Ahead - John Spencer on X

  • The largest funder of Palestinians is the United States

  • Info

    Senor: Strategic ally, low-risk, high-ROI

    • [31:28–33:36] Al Haig’s “unsinkable aircraft carrier” analogy: Israel is a power-projection platform in a vital region, without U.S. troops at risk. What Israel asks: no daylight (public unity) against diplomatic isolation efforts; private disagreements are fine.
      • [33:02–33:36] Contrast: Europeans pursued Palestinian recognition at the UN; Trump backed Israel’s operations (e.g., into Gaza City) despite global pressure to “rein them in.”
      • Return on investment (ROI) is extraordinary: intelligence, security, tech, innovation.

Info

Shapiro: Aid structure, independence, and anti-Semitic double standards

  • [36:04–37:26] Shapiro favors Israel weaning off U.S. aid; MOUs constrain Israeli defense industry (origin: the US discouraged Israel’s Lavi fighter by offering subsidy to buy U.S. jets like F-16s and apply upgrades instead).
    • Definitions: Lavi fighter = Israeli fighter jet program canceled in 1980s; F-16 = American multirole fighter aircraft.
  • [37:31–39:23] Pro-Israel voices do not advocate US invasion of Iran (would benefit Israel short-term but be terrible for America). Prefer surgical actions (e.g., strike Fordow nuclear site) with no US casualties.
    • Definitions: Fordow = Iranian nuclear facility; Isolationism = foreign policy avoiding entanglements/alliances.
  • [39:00–39:23] Disproportionate focus on Israel is anti-Semitic when US supports many allies more expensively:
    • ~$67B for bases in Japan; billions for South Korea; ~$5B for Ramstein (Germany). Nobody calls proponents “Japan first,” “Germany first,” etc.
    • Definitions: Ramstein = major US Air Force base in Germany.

Right of Return

  • It’ll be an extreme blood letting if happened

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    South Korea would still be the wasteland it was after the Korean War, rather than an Asian economic tiger. On both sides of the India–Pakistan border, tens of millions of refugees would sit seething, generation after generation, continuing to claim the other country as their own. The United States would be deprived of much of its energy and become a country of refugees who refuse to build a future in it while constantly looking back to their mythologized previous lives, or actually to those of their great-grandparents. Hundreds of millions of refugees in Africa and Europe would sit in camps, nurturing resentments and fantasies of revenge, and no single nation’s borders would be settled. Had the people in the rest of the world been registered as refugees in the same manner as UNRWA does for Palestinians, the long (relative) peace that has marked much of the world since the end of WWII would have been replaced by constant war.

  • If UNRWA did the same thing in Korea, India-Pakistan — there’d be hundreds of millions of “refugees” now sitting in “camps”

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    Palestinians cannot be prevented from dreaming of a time before the birth of the state of Israel nor of return to a mythical Palestine. But it is certainly possible to detach this dream from its sources of fuel and international support. The road to peace can only be cleared if the Palestinians understand that their claims over the whole of Palestine from the river to the sea have no international support, just as Israel has no international support for its claims to territory beyond the 1967 line. Palestinians would probably continue dreaming of having Jaffa and Haifa, just as Jews would continue dreaming of having Hebron and Judea—but both these dreams would remain precisely that. They would be dreams, not claims, and certainly not claims enjoying even tacit international support. While Palestinians, even without the seal of a UN refugee agency, might still come to the negotiating table with demands for a mass return, it would be much less likely, and at the very least they would no longer be able to argue that they have international support in favor of such demands.

Settlers

Israel is Expansionist (Greater Israel)

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MISC

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